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10/06 New

Carmen Electra - Riding a Sybian
When playboy model and actress Carmen Electra stopped by on the Howard Stern show she wasn't expecting to be riding a sex toy by the end of the interview. But sometimes on Stern, that's just what happens.
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=1940
You have to listen to short ad before it starts.

 

NOTICE OF STOLEN SYBIAN on 731/03  WITH A SERIAL NUMBER (on the bottom) 8477
If you buy a used Sybian check the serial number - It has been stolen and wants to come home. So sad we have such creeps around  - If found contact
dave@davephx.com

Someone Asked About Sybian:
>Good God man!
>Spill the beans!
>Hows it work?!?!

>Do I change my name to "Sybian" and then the babes just start following me around?

>Do I also need to go to Tampa and hang around the right supermarkets?


>Is it a pill? Is it an herb, or mixture of herbs and vitamins?? Is it a cream or lubricant? Is it some kind of vibrator, dildo, condom, french tickler??

OK here is everything you maybe wanted to know and a whole lot more about Sybian for women & Venus for men.

Sybian ... is not a drug but gives a good high! I guess I just assumed everyone had heard of it to know what it is.....OK here goes.

  

Sybian is like a vibrator on a large base but with a unique design. The women sits on the Sybian which sits on the floor. It has two separate movements. A Vaginal Insert rotates within the vagina with speed adjustable to very slow to very fast. (left photo above) and the entire area which contacts the vulva vibrates, as does the vaginal insert again at any speed you desire (center photo above). Separate controls allow independent regulation of vibration and rotation over a wide range of speeds. Sybian provides simultaneous, intense stimulation of both the clitoris and the G- spot internal area.

The standard package - see details of options and pricing way below or click here


The Sybian "Best ever" G spot stimulation for about 75% of women
Provides the "best ever" G-spot, full body, deep, powerful orgasms for about 75% of women in my experience. Also sensitizes the G-spot, or for sexual therapy, can help a woman achieve a deep orgasm that may be inhibited due to medications or emotional blocks related to sexual abuse or other factors. We show how to use Sybian and also retain physical intimacy while maximizing a woman's pleasure. We are offering the Sybian for sale, or by the session (in Phoenix for sessions).

Why We Offer The Sybian Experience
Before even thinking about offering the Sybian, I asked for comments a number of years ago, from women on Prodigy. I wanted honest opinions, not just sales testimonials. I also asked a sex therapist and a retired sex surrogate, whose opinions I highly respect. From the many responses and other research it is clear the Sybian supports our teaching of intimate loving, positive sexuality, especially for women. It is especially useful for women that are not orgasmic or not yet multi-orgasmic. It has medical as well as emotional benefits and makes sexuality with a loving mate even more fulfilling. The Sybian experience can be wonderfully shared with a partner, or if none is available a woman without a partner can have much greater sexual fulfillment than from any other stimulation method.

Helping Women Achieve Unlimited Sexual Pleasure
One of the results of the "sexual revolution" is the acceptance by women that they have the physical capacity for unlimited sexual response, a desire for sex that is equal to or greater than that of men, and the same right to sexual fulfillment. It is generally accepted by most health professionals that orgasmic release is one method of reducing stress which in turn provides women a much happier life. It also seems that good deep orgasms help relieve the discomfort of menstrual cramps.

As A Woman Told Me On Prodigy:
"My wonderful husband gave me a Sybian machine for my birthday. He is a wonderfully supportive, nurturing man, and was not at all threatened by Sybian's potential.

I probably use the Sybian three or four times a month...How we use it depends on our mood and circumstances. The use of Sybian has in no way decreased my desire to make love to my husband. I find that the orgasms it produces are of incredible intensity, and the duration lasts as long as you choose. It is not at all unusual for my husband to have to help me up off the floor and back into bed after enjoying Sybian. In terms of its benefits, I have enjoyed the capacity to be much more multi- orgasmic, and Sybian has done much to awaken my G spot.

I have on occasion, demonstrated Sybian for other women and invited them to try it, and almost all have experienced the same results as I. It is not a substitute, but a very intense addition to our lovemaking when we desire to make use of what it can offer."

The Story Of Sybian Idea to Perfection
Founder David Lampert, first thought of what is now called Sybian in the early 1970s. In 1979 he contacted an engineer and others, but was quickly discouraged and set the idea aside.

In early 1983 a lady physician encouraged him to pursue it further. He talked to many about sexual devices but no one knew of such a machine.

Over the next year and a half, he extensively studied the literature on sex research and counseling. In 1985 he had a machine shop produce the first very crude prototype. David is a perfectionist and likes to solve problems - often awakening at 3AM with a solution to a problem.

From the inception of the first prototype to marketing the present product took three years. Literally thousands of alterations and refinements took place, some extremely minor and some very radical. Many were dictated by mechanical necessity but many were the result of David's personal testing the machine on many women and observing their reactions closely and trying to perfect a machine to absolutely maximize a woman's sexual pleasure. Today's Sybian is the result of collective input from many women.

The Sybian Name
For nearly four years it was called Master Better, MB for short, but David wanted a better name and came up with Sybian. The Syb is derived from Sybaris, an ancient Greek city in southern Italy, famous as a center of luxurious living. A Sybarite is a person who likes luxurious things.

Overwhelming Enthusiastic Response
After years of manufacturing and marketing Sybian, David is overwhelmed by the enthusiastic response of new owners, and has received many incredibly heartwarming stories.

Sybian is usually purchased either as a learning tool to develop sexual responses or as a means of deeper fulfillment. Many women who thought they were buying Sybian for enjoyment have learned a great deal about their sexual responses and potential as an additional benefit.

The owners who contact David most often are those whose lives have been affected drastically. Most are women who seldom or never had orgasms with their partner and have now learned to do so. They write or call because they give Sybian credit for teaching them to have powerfully fulfilling multiple orgasms.

Most Women CAN be Multi-Orgasmic
Experts in sexuality agree that most women can be multi-orgasmic! And with a partner! This will increase their personal pleasure from sex many fold, and they become much more enjoyable and responsive sex partners. Maximum sexual response is learned and in our shame-based sex-negative culture few women and even fewer men have been taught positive sexuality. Sexual response is wonderful - not dirty - as many religious groups try and make it. Sexuality is far more than just procreation. It should be for physical as well as emotional fulfillment.

Proper attitude about sexuality is just as important as efficient stimulation. The brain is the primary sex organ. It controls how you will react to sexual stimulation. Sybian can produce very intense stimulation and can break through mental barriers that have not been penetrated before. This is one reason Sybian has so many success stories. There are many reports of "first orgasm ever" while using Sybian. That is exciting!

Women who are multi-orgasmic usually prefer longer sessions of intercourse. Men generally are not as orgasmic and tend to lose their erection after ejaculation. Sybian can be used to satisfy a portion of her needs before having intercourse or afterwards until she is fully satisfied.

Sybian provides hours of pleasure whether a woman is alone or with a partner. A loving partner will enjoy touching and holding you while Sybian provides the intense stimulation. Women say that if their partner is actively participating, they become oblivious to the fact that they are being stimulated mechanically.

Many Reasons For Using Sybian
Some women have partners who are gone at times and Sybian can fill in. Some men have health problems. Others ejaculate too quickly. Some don't like extended lovemaking. Some women have partners who just don't care, while others have partners who are temporarily or permanently impotent. None of these partners will satisfy the desires of women who have realized their full sexual potential. Sybian can.

Added Benefits

Sybian owners experience ecstasy while gaining the additional benefit of relieving stress. Some users report that by regular use, they eliminated or greatly reduced stress related migraine headaches. It is well known that having orgasms during the early stages of menstrual cramps can bring relief.

Mechanical Details
Sybian is unique in its design. It has two separate movements. A Vaginal Insert rotates within the vagina and the entire area which contacts the vulva vibrates, as does the vaginal insert. Separate controls allow independent regulation of vibration and rotation over a wide range of speeds. Sybian provides simultaneous, intense stimulation of both the clitoris and the G- spot internal area.

A Look Inside and Many More Mechanical Details



Here is a public posting on internet from new purchaser
Subject: Sybian User Testimonial
To: alt.sex.swingers,alt.personals.poly

Seeing postings on the Sybian has prompted me to write this. I'm the male of a M-F couple who recently purchased a Sybian through Dave of Liberated Christians. Please note that he relays your order to the manufacturer, and his nonprofit group gets a small kickback. I felt they were worth supporting, as his stance is sex-positive and adamantly pro-female. While he has come under fire for a supposedly "commercial" posting, consider how many people don't comprehend the device's potential or where to obtain one. When contacting him with questions, we were very impressed with his gracious answers and his absolutely NO sales pressure demeanor.

My girlfriend came the first time she used it, a week ago. Her orgasm was far beyond anything yet experienced, and I am an educated, thoughtful, caring male who lives for her multi-orgasmic pleasure. The release could best be described as a cross between a total body orgasm and an out-of-body experience. I would not be wrong to include the adjective "spiritual".

Yes, the device is deucedly expensive. But we are going to keep it. The machine is literally made for a lifetime of use, and the manufacturer really respects and cares for its clients. They can have my girlfriend's Sybian when they pry her cold, dead fingers from the controls ;-)

Based on my experience, gentlemen (please forgive what may seem a hetero bias; but men need more education. I encourage all women of any persuasion to check it out) should consider the purchase of one because:

1) The female will learn how to have better and bigger orgasms. She will literally explode on it.

2) The female will learn how to better communicate what she wants to her partner, during sex without it.

3) The man has a great opportunity to learn more about female sexuality. The female capacity and appetite for pleasure can truly be infinite. It's such an honor to witness her discover this. She will indeed become hotter and more sexually responsive during sex without it.

4) No, she will not become addicted to it. She will want you all the more.

5) She straddles the device. A stool is included for her partner to be seated fore or aft of her. Her hands are free, and she will welcome your kisses and caresses. You will be more of a participant than you are during "ordinary" vibrator sessions. You will not feel like the "second man out".

6) It may open up other vistas you want to explore. My girlfriend is bubbling over the prospect of having a Sybian party with another couple. The Sybian is going to be a marvelous ice-breaking tool.

7) Gentlemen, number 7 is a luckynumber and so is this tip: The happier your partner is, the happier she will make you. "And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love, you make."--John Lennon. Happy Trails!

Other reports:

"I am 32 and could masturbate to orgasm but I never had an orgasm during partner sex. After using Sybian now for three months, I have had many orgasms while making love to my husband and it just seems to get better every time." - from Idaho

"In recent times I have not had a regular boyfriend so I ordered a Sybian. It has been a godsend for me. My entire outlook on life has changed since I started using Sybian and I now wake up looking forward to each day. Since I'm in a better mood, I have a lot more dates." - from Alabama "We make a great threesome - my husband, Sybian and me. Sybian definitely has been an aphrodisiac for me. My desire for sex and my ability to keep going has increased by multiples. My husband now calls me his lovely nymph. We love it." - from Kansas City

"When I first heard about Sybian, it blew my mind to think anyone would pay so much for sexual gratification. Three months later I ordered Sybian and I now consider it the best investment I ever made. Your 30-day trial offer did the trick."- from Ohio

"I learned more about my own capacity in one night with Sybian than I had learned in a lifetime-now I know how to respond to that eternal question from men, "Honey, tell me what you want." - from Chicago

"I'm 74 years old. My wife and I have a very loving relationship, but I can no longer have an erection. She is 56 and still very interested in sex. We have tried other aids but decided to order Sybian. It really feels good to hold her and to have her say that she is completely satisfied." - from Seattle

"I am 67, weigh 195, and have been widowed three years. I use Sybian about every other day and have received more sexual satisfaction in the last four months than in 42 years of marriage." -from Wisconsin

"We have been married for 17 years and I always thought our sex life was OK, but I didn't get too excited about it. So I decided to humor my husband when he eagerly presented me with a Sybian for our anniversary...I can hardly describe the feeling I had when my body just exploded. It was just unreal what happened to me. I soon realized that at the age of 38, with Sybian, I had my first orgasm ever... I have now started having orgasms while making love to my husband, and I have Sybian to thank." - from Texas

"Neither my husband nor I had much previous sexual experience before our marriage twelve years ago. He is a good man but he didn't satisfy my sexual needs. I need prolonged, direct clitoral stimulation to reach orgasm. He is not very good at that so I wasn't in the mood very often. Our sexual frustration was becoming a real problem between us. I sent for literature on Sybian and decided it would cost less than counseling. Once I got used to having climaxes easily with Sybian, we began using it in our lovemaking. I am now eager for sex with him, knowing there will be no frustration. The change in our lives has been dramatic. I know that sexual problems have ended many marriages and without Sybian ours may have gone that way." - from Shreveport, LA

"Sybian arrived on Christmas Eve as you promised and we tried it Christmas night. My wife had an orgasm the very first time and things have been going up from there. I guess she would have been considered multi-orgasmic before, but now she is more so. You quoted Dr. Crenshaw, `the more sex you have, the more sex you will want, and the more sexually responsive you will be.' This really has happened to both of us...it's really great." - from Nashville

From A Single Man
"I am single, in my 50's, and have had "Bunny Hopper" (that's what I call it) for nearly 3 years. I had several use it when I first got it and then all of a sudden I had women coming up to me or calling on the phone asking if they could come by and use it. I met a lot of fun ladies this way. Got so I couldn't keep up, so now I let some come by and use it while I'm at work. Would guess 45 or 50 have used it so far. Most are in their 40's or 50's but several are younger. I'm only aware of one that did not have orgasms on the first try. "Bunny Hopper" has been used several hundred hours, could be 1000, and hasn't missed a beat. It's indestructible. I've had more fun with this than I could describe. Best investment I ever made. Someone could do a helluva story about my experience and they wouldn't have to flower it." from VA near DC (David's note: We were hesitant to use this testimonial for fear some would not believe it; however, we have talked with this man, as well as an acquaintance of his, and believe it to be true and accurate. We can verify that he has purchased a lot of inserts.)

Sybian Is Not An Inexpensive Toy
But A Valuable Therapeutic Tool.

Liberated Christians believes everyone should have a Sybian available and experience the sexual euphoria that God designed women to enjoy. The regular retail price of Sybian is $1,395. Liberated Christians offers it for "only" $1,345.

Sybian could perhaps have made a cheaper model. But the decision was made not to manufacture a toy that could break down in a year or two.

Sybian is extremely well built and durable. Of all the Sybians in use to date, fewer than 1% have been returned for any kind of repair and all were returned to the owner the next shipping day. Sybian should run efficiently for many years without problems.

Value Is Relative
Sybian will give more hours of pleasure and pure enjoyment for yourself or your wife or partner, for each dollar invested, than most any other product or service.

Order Information CALL Dave in Phoenix at 602-955-0767 or
E-mail dave@davephx.com

OR, You can order via this link and we still get credit for the sale: Sybian.Com

Your Investment:
Order Sybian Thru Liberated Christians For A Discounted Price:
Sybian Regular Retail Price $ 1395
Liberated Christians Price $1345 including stool, extra springs, various different size inserts, even includes lubricant and 5 yr limited warranty etc.
Plus shipping from manufacturer in Illinois:
UPS Ground $20
2nd Day Air About $50 but varies with location - how far from Illinois
Outside U.S. UPS Worldwide shipping used and comes with 220 v option at no additional cost.

$1345 Sybian Package Includes:
Demo Video
Small Vaginal Insert
Medium Vaginal Insert
Large ReaLike "Cover"
Slipper - for clitoral stimulation
Flat Top (no insertion)
Detachable Power Cord (if 120v model not 220)
Matching Stool
5.5 oz Glide ID® Brand Lubricant
Spare 6.3 Amp Fuse
2 Springs & 4 Plastic Stems  
Warranty and Instruction Manual

 

Additional Inserts That May Be Ordered Separately  Those in Green in standard package but extras also available
Small Insert: 1 1/8" D & 3" L $35.00
Medium Insert: 1 1/4" D & 3 3/4" L (Is Base for all the RealLIke Covers) $35.00
Finger: 1/2" D & 3" L $35.00 *
FlatTop: None $35.00
GMini: 2.5 L X 1.75 D but has a ball shape to stimulate G-Spot $35.00*
G-Max: 3.37" L but has a ball shape on top
 to stimulate the G-Spot.
$40.00*
Jumbo ReaLike "Cover"  7"C & 7"L 48.00**
Large RealLike "Cover"  5"C & 5" L $48.00
XLarge RealLike "Cover"6" C & 6" L $44.00**

Double Insertion                                                   $48.00 **

 
   
Insert Special (includes the other 6 inserts not part of the Sybian package = Finger + GMini +Gmax + Xlarge + Jumbo + Double.) $250 but only $150 if ordered at the same time as Sybian
   

 
* $28.00 & ** $33.00 if ordered at the same time as a Sybian

Try It
You can try Sybian for a full 45 days and if not completely sold on its value, return it for only a $125 reconditioning fee. If it doesn't work for you, your cost is minimal. If like about 75% of women, it is really great, you have made a lifelong investment in pleasure.

Sybian News From Our Newsletter
I continue to share Sybian with quite a few women with mostly great response. We also continue to sell a number of them, especially from the Internet.

Abco first started marketing Sybian in 1987 and less than 1% have been returned for repair. It is very well built and designed to last a long time!

A few years ago the motor and control board was updated allowing even faster vibration. However, this is not recommended other than in short bursts, and from my experience, the old motor generates plenty of vibration for most women. More may simply be too intense. Remember men, we are trying to give the women pleasure, not shoot her to the moon.

There are also two new inserts available that look more real. One is much smaller and one somewhat larger (primarily wider) than the originals. Some women prefer the new, soft, larger (fuller) one, but with women I've tried both with, some prefer the original. The Sybian experience is different for different women and preferences between the different inserts and stems (hard or soft) vary widely.

NOTE REGARDING USING ON A BED ESPECIALLY IF WOMEN HAS KNEE PROBLEMS SO NORMAL POSITION UNCOMFORTABLE The Sybian was designed so it could be used while lying on ones back. If she is alone, she can hold it into her self with her heels, use one hand to tip it forward or back for best comfort and the other hand to run the controls.  If a partner is present, they can hold it into them. We have several owners who only use it while lying down.

Discussion board posts: Where are the used Sybians?
Sybians last forever, and most women prefer to be buried with them, and even a few hardcore women prefer to be buried ON them, so its not likely you'll ever see a used one for sale. ;-)

I'm a single guy who owns one. Sometimes it stays in the case for months at a time. Even if it's not used for years, I still wouldn't sell it. In fact, I've already stipulated in a will that it be donated to a dear friend of mine.

On E-Bay 7/10/02 you have to look under the mature audiences category there is currently one listed item # 1748527908 ending in 4 days current bid 920.00
PS If i sold it my wife would kill me.

The Sybian auctions I've monitored have all have sold for a grand plus, only a few hundred dollars less that a new one.  Often people want to sell the older brown Sybian for the newest black one which has a few extra features such as higher top speed. They can sell the old version for only a few hundred less than they have to pay for a new Sybian.  For buyers it would seem to make more sense to just buy a new Sybian.

AND MORE LETTERS REGARDING PRACTICAL PROBLEMS
AND OUR RESPONSE

Sybian Noise Control
One major problem with the Sybian machine - and with some other vibrators, I might add - is the noise they generate (and the noise you or your wife generate, but I will not cover that here). To completely relax is difficult in a noise-polluted environment, and particularly so when you worry about your neigbours or kids (or parents) hearing. And relaxation is of paramount importance if you want to set the atmosphere for sexual enjoyment.

This is the reason why I write this short article about noise control and various "tweaks" you might try to make your sybian run more quietly and transmit less vibrations to the floor. I will try and keep it as simple as possible theoretically, and yet cover the most essential aspects of acoustics and noise control.

Reaction Force is the source of the problem. If I stand face to face with a friend, and give him a hard shove to the chest so that he topples backwards, I have to carefully keep my balance myself, because I am subjecting myself to a force exactly equal to that with which I affect my friend, but in the opposite direction. The same goes for vibrators. When the Sybian makes the attachment vibrate, this creates an equal but "opposite" vibration in the machine itself. The machine weighs about a hundred times more than the attachment, so the vibration is a hundred times smaller, but it contains just as much energy.

The vibration energy in the machine must go someplace. Energy never disappears. Most of it is converted into heat, but some of it is radiated as sound. In a "perfect" world, the Sybian machine would have infinite weight, so that it would not move one little bit. Or it would be perfectly connected to the floor, which would be infinitely stiff - thus creating a situation where the entire earth would move just a tiny little bit when the attachment moved in the opposite direction. But such perfect situations do not exist. Even if you have a concrete floor, it will "flex" a bit, and vibrations from the machine will transmit to your neighbours. Since the floor is big, it has to move just a very tiny little bit to emit a sound that is perceptible.

So, how do we control and improve the situation?

There are a couple of different ways to go, and you can use all of them simultaneously if you want. The first thing you might try - and which many have tried already - is to ISOLATE the vibrations. This means that you stop them from spreading from the machine to the floor. A piece of foam or a folded towel under the Sybian might improve things, but these are hardly ideal solutions. These will work to some extent at particular frequencies, and do little or nothing at other frequencies. What I suggest is that you try and find a material that has been developed for the purpose of vibration control. Isolation is described as "achieved by inserting compliant element between disturbance source and structure to be isolated" - and the key word is "compliant". The compliance of the isolation material has to be "tuned" so that it will make the disturbance source "float" at all frequencies that it generates. The spring resonance frequency has to be very low in the case of the Sybian.

My suggestion is that you try and find Sorbothane damping feet intended for use with loudspeakers by hifi enthusiasts. Many brand names exist, and you should try and find a model that is suitable for quite heavy applications (namely, the weight of a sybian + rider). "Audio Quest - SorboGel Big Feet" are a suggestion (no more than 10 pounds of weight per piece, so you need quite a few). Or you might want to contact http://www.sorbothane.com and ask where you can find a thick sheet of sorbothane for industrial applications from a dealer near you. That might be cheaper than the overpriced audiophile stuff. Sorbothane feet that are thick enough (2 inches or so) will provide over 90% isolation - lowering the transmitted sound more than 10 dB, which is the same as taking more than half of it away. If you decide to look for the industrial sorbothane, you want to look for "durometer" of about thirty (shore 00), which is a way of describing how soft the material is. Lower durometers mean that the material is better at isolating low frequency resonance, which is what we want in the case of the Sybian.

Another approach is that you try and find a car tire inner tube of appropriate dimensions. Inflate it and place it under the Sybian and see how it works. This will also work as a spring and isolate the Sybian from the floor.

Allright. That was isolation. Now for the other approach: DAMPING. Isolation works to move a problem from one area to another. Since the vibrations cannot be transmitted to the floor, they stay in the Sybian machine, which will vibrate more violently than before. This will cause it to resonate and the sides to flex and emit sound. The energy has to go someplace, after all. This is where damping comes in. We want to convert the energy to heat, not sound.

To the interior or exterior of the Sybian, we want to add a sheet of material that makes it heavier and provides a measure of "internal damping". If you place the Sybian on sorbothane feet, this alone provides excellent damping, since sorbothane is not only an excellent isolator, but also a very good damper. In addition to this, you can find self-adhesive sheets of sorbothane that can be placed inside the Sybian - at strategic spots or all over the interior. Since this makes the Sybian heavier, it also means that it will not move as much, and thus it will emit less sound. You will have to find out just how much free space there is inside your Sybian, and place the sorbothane accordingly. You might also touch a fingertip to the Sybian at different spots and at many different speeds to find out where the problem areas are, and treat these more heavily.

If you can’t easily find sorbothane in self-adhesive sheets, you can use bitumen rubber instead, which is a material often used to soundproof cars from engine and tire noise. You can probably find sheets of self-adhesive bitumen from a car accessories retailer nearby. The thicker and heavier the better!

I will also give you a less Sybian-oriented suggestion, but one certainly related to noise control and sexuality: Buy some acoustic panels and install them in your ceiling and perhaps on some of the walls. These are usually effective over a broad frequency range, and their function is not so much to prevent sound from leaking through the walls, but to make the walls radiate less energy back into the room. This creates an environment with less reverberation and gives a very soothing, relaxing quiet atmosphere. It is perfect for sleeping, and just as perfect for sex. It also makes speech far more intelligible. I warmly recommend them. http://www.silentsource.com/index.html is a good place to start, and they can recommend you products for your bedroom. Myself, I would go for the "sonex" absorbing panels.

Good luck, if you decide to implement my suggestions! -And please remember that the warranty expires the second you open your Sybian…

Karl Wikman

I'm flattered that you liked my article about sybian noise control. You may certainly use it on your website if you want to, and you can use "karl wikman" and karlwikman@hotmail.com as you suggested... Karl happens to be my internet alias, and my real name is xxxxxxxx ;) But don't tell anyone ...


Sybian Vibrations:
"I just bought a Sybian and I live in an apartment (top floor). The noise and vibration produced by the Sybian shakes the floors, walls and has gotten my 67 yr. old downstairs neighbor alarmed. I can't be the first person who has had this problem. Do you know of anyone who has already dealt with this problem? If so do you know what they did? I'm already combing my yellow pages looking for "vibration dampening" products or some sort of rubber mat that might take care of the problem. So far no luck... Sybian on my bed is okay (not great though)... but it is still so noisy that I have had to wait until my next door neighbor (we share a common BR wall) isn't home. Any advice?"

Dave's reply:
"I know your concerns are serious...but I am also laughing. When I started using it in one of our host couple's homes in an upstairs bedroom, others were in the living room below and told me how the vibration coming through the ceiling had everyone in laughter. One of the women was a real screamer...but they could not hear her, only Sybian shaking the house! Fortunately these were swingers..not nice little old ladies.

Seriously I don't have a solution other than some vibration dampening material. On a bed makes it very hard to use I would think. The wild gyrations of the insert that everyone laughs at when I demonstrate it are not nearly so wild once inside and your body dampens some of the noise from the tops..spinning. But still you have the vibration below on through the floor from the motor.

I'd also like to find a way to make Sybian more comfortable for the women to sit on. Have it taller or something since its so awkward to sit on...especially until you get use to it.

But...sorry no good solution to the vibrations. you want it vibrating in you...just not shaking the whole building. Maybe just tell people its your new carpet beating vacuum cleaner?"

After sharing vibrating Sybian story with our cofounder Julia, she had these wise comments:
"I'll just bet you can hear me giggling all the way to Phx... I wonder what the neighbor had to say about HER vibrations?? Perhaps the neighbor should be invited over for a demo!

Seriously (ha) I don't see why a desk mat wouldn't help. Have her check @ Office Max or Staples, maybe telling them that the copier is getting out of hand; or an appliance store may have something for jumpy washers. Or, she COULD move the whole deal out to the LR or even the patio; end of problem right quick out in Nature 'cause I don't think they allow Syb in jail! ('Course having the Venus in the pokey would end a lot of inhouse stuff, now wouldn't it?)"

Another reply: "the big equipment in our lab needs to be protected from vibration, and it sits on these heavy-duty inflated donut kinda things instead of directly on the floor. My suggestion: look for something inflated rather than solid, though it'll be tough if the machine is as heavy as I imagine it to be..." Well the woman doesn't want to also have to do a balancing act and Sybian isn't THAT BIG!

Another idea: "One thing you might do is check a sporting goods or discount store for the sleeping-bag pads of closed-cell foam. I believe you could fold one double, giving two layers per pad, and still get it under the base of a Sybian. I don't know if this would work, but it's proved useful in quieting noisy shop machines of about the motor size of Sybians. Also, you can buy them everywhere and they only cost a few bucks. You'll still have the airborne noise of the machine (and maybe its rider!) But enough hard foam should keep it from turning the whole floor into a sounding board."

(We recently sold another Sybian to a woman whose husband was so insecure he wouldn't even allow her to try it. She was very upset that she had to return it without even trying it.)

Hard On Knees Problem Especially for older or heavier women:
Many users raise it so they can put their feet on the floor rather than knees. If a partner is present to avoid an accident, setting it on the stool is a good way to try it while raised. When ever it is raised, it should be on a well padded surface (such as is on the stool). Some people that have suspended it from above and some use it only while lying down.

Also she should not have all her weight on it. Doing so will chatter her teeth and could cause bruising. She may need to have some means to "raise up somewhat" to adjust the amount of contact. They should remain in contact but not full weight.

More Sybian: My response to discussion of how men might try and be too aggressive as "controllers":
Actually either the man or women can control the "current". If the man does, the problem is most men want to take her to the moon too fast. They get a bit heavy handed with the rheostat! I start slowly, very gradually building up both rotation and vibration as the woman gets use to the feeling (especially if first time). She may have to lean a bit one way or another...be sure "fits" comfortably.... Also I've become quite good at reading a woman's reactions from facial expressions....or verbal screams....I seldom go wide open until after I've done a few up and down cycles building to a higher threshold each time..until I think she's really ready and gradually go wide open. At that point .. if I'm not bleeding from her nails in my back..I like to just hold her tightly in my arms as she is having powerful orgasm after orgasm. Up until that point I'm usually working the controls with one hand while stroking her or manually stimulating her at appropriate times with the other. I've found combining manual clitoral stimulation at the same time as she is getting internal G-spot stimulation is what most women really really like.

Then I suggest she just cuddle up on the floor with her partner or me and just relax in someone's arms. She will be unable to walk for at least 10 minutes anyway. She will think the room is still vibrating and her legs will be mush. She often will have mini orgasm aftershocks for a few minutes also.

If the woman doesn't trust her partner, she may want to take control of the current. But shortly she will be unable to make rationale decisions and it is better to have someone more stable (who isn't vibrating) run the controls! Dave is happy to test drive for any woman who comes to Phoenix !


This person thinks our Sybian information is sexist!
I was very disappointed that your website did not include a photo of a man demonstrating the Venus device. You claim to promote sexual awareness and healing, and yet you show three pictures of sexy naked women, only one of which included a partly obscured man. Are you a salesman or a pornographer? It seems to me that if you were truly interested in enlightening people that you would show a man using your product. As it stands, I get the impression that you are more interested in titillating your customers than in sharing this product that you claim is so revolutionary.

Dave's response:
Many people have a hard time picturing just how a women uses Sybian. The only way to show HOW Sybian is used is by pictures... and how used WITH A MAN! Venus requires no such explanation...sticking a penis in a device that gives pleasure, doesn't need a picture for most to understand..

And with our repressive society we will have no frontal nudity in our site to avoid any adult classification. Further, I have never found a gif of a man using it, much less than not be considered "adult material". I have lots of women shots using Sybian which isn't "adult" material. Yes, its silly I realize.


VHS Demonstration Tape...
of both Sybian and Venus is available for $24.95 which includes shipping. Tape is 22 minutes about Sybian and 18 minutes about Venus. Tape is for adult use only since contains sexually explicit material. If you buy Sybian or Venus the tape is included. If you purchase tape and then Sybian or Venus you get a $20 credit.

In response to an E-mail thinking tape should be more sexy and how Sybian might replace a man, Dave said:
We get mixed comments on the Sybian tape. Some wish it were more sexy. But their are plenty of other tapes that use Sybian more for sex often I feel to exploit women for men's pleasure instead of concentrate on the value of the women's pleasure for the women, not just to get men off. It's similar to the many female ejaculation videos that to me simply exploit what is so natural and for a women's pleasure.

I also look at Sybian as more than just an erotic adult "toy". But as a pleasure machine that also has medical benefits for a women. Good orgasms do great things for the body in addition to the wonderful pleasure feelings. As you say, the video is more educational in style which we were glad to see.

It is just as you wonderfully said, would never replace a man, but be a wonderful addition that can be shared with a man....stool even provided for him! 

Be sure you can trust him however, with the controls. In a few minutes you will not be capable of controlling it yourself, but too many men want to send their partner to the moon too soon and tend to be too aggressive with both rotation and vibration controls too fast. I've learned to read a women fairly well when she is ready for more...and more...and more.. slowly. Also with an experienced Sybian Pilot.... just like in real sex... bringing the women just on the verge of orgasm, but then backing down bringing up and backing down, while somewhat driving the women crazy, can enhance her orgasms when she has them - almost always long lasting, multiple keep going..!

Comment from a male licensed sex surrogate (now retired) whose book many years ago inspired me to be  more seriously interest in the positive therapeutic benefits of sexuality. He also did most of the G spot and female ejaculation research for the famous "The G Spot" book my Beverly Whipple, used with permission:

Board: LIFESTYLES BB
Topic: WOMEN'S ISSUES
Subject: SYBIAN - ORGASM MACH

To: TESSA xxxxxx
From: JERRY DEHAAN 
Time: 03/26 1:37 PM

Tessa; some years ago I attended a conference for sex therapists and sex surrogates, at which a Sybian machine was demonstrated, using volunteers from the audience. Some of them preferred to use it privately, but some volunteered to use it in front of the group. The results were amazing and not one woman failed to have an orgasm, even in the group setting. As you probably know, there is a set of remote controls so a friend or partner can use the machine while the woman is astride it and this can add to the pleasure of two people. The only drawback was that the machine was a little noisy, somewhat cumbersome and VERY expensive. Jerry, retired sex therapist 

Jerry also has told me he wished he could use Sybian in sex surrogacy work but couldn't since only the "real thing" can be used in surrogacy.

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